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Arkantos · May 19, 2008, 06:12 PM // 18:12

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Originally Posted by Gli

Ehhh... that's the tournament reward guy...

Click him, you will see the Buy zaishen keys with tournament reward points/Buy zaishen keys with balthazar faction options.

Gli · May 19, 2008, 07:20 PM // 19:20

Duh... I know all that. I'm looking for the merchant that takes gold, seeing as how everyone is going on about it being a PvE title and one can farm gold and buy keys.

BlackSephir · May 19, 2008, 07:27 PM // 19:27

Too bad you don't read, buddy.

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I'm looking for the merchant that takes gold

Didn't take long.

Snow Bunny · May 19, 2008, 08:07 PM // 20:07

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Originally Posted by Gli

Duh... I know all that. I'm looking for the merchant that takes gold, seeing as how everyone is going on about it being a PvE title and one can farm gold and buy keys.

You can buy this title with PvE gold.

Hero/Champ you actually have to slightly play for it.

This you can buy. It's a PvE title.

Dead Mushmul · May 19, 2008, 08:44 PM // 20:44

Next Idea:PvE HA and PvE GvG

I Will Heal You Ally · May 19, 2008, 08:54 PM // 20:54

LOL PvE HA is already on... hero farm runs... you pay they deliver :P

yum · May 19, 2008, 08:59 PM // 20:59

How about a FOW or UW chest everytime you win a match in RA?

Sparks Dawnbringer · May 19, 2008, 11:30 PM // 23:30

Well, if you don't want us to have the zaishen chest, how about utilizing Luxon,Kursick, Norn, etc and giving us separate keys for them.

Tyla · May 20, 2008, 06:57 AM // 06:57

Sparks, what the hell are you on about?

You already have access to the Zaishen Chest, as does anybody else.

Cash can buy keys from players.
Balthazar Faction and Tournament Reward Points can buy keys from the [Tournament] guy.

And if you ask me, the people with the most money has the highest chance of getting the title first.

Maybe high end GvG'ers will get it quicker via AT's.

Everyone has a chance at getting it, so how don't you have access? Stop being such an idiot or stop posting. Your choice.

Gli · May 20, 2008, 07:28 AM // 07:28

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

Too bad you don't read, buddy.

Didn't take long.

Wait a minute... are you suggesting I'd have to interact with other players in order to achieve a PvE title? I still don't get it.

Tyla · May 20, 2008, 07:30 AM // 07:30

The point is it's accessable to PvE'ers, for extreme ease.

Stop posting or post something decent.

BlackSephir · May 20, 2008, 09:02 AM // 09:02

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Originally Posted by Gli

Wait a minute... are you suggesting I'd have to interact with other players in order to achieve a PvE title? I still don't get it.

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I'm looking for the merchant that takes gold

Dang, you have no idea what do you want, eh?

Well, here it is. Merchants that take gold and give you keys so you can have your title. Exactly what you wanted.

Gli · May 20, 2008, 09:10 AM // 09:10

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

Dang, you have no idea what do you want, eh?

Well, here it is. Merchants that take gold and give you keys so you can have your title. Exactly what you wanted.

I know perfectly well what I want and it's not this 'my title'. Oh, and the merchants I'm used to dealing with all have their names in green and [merchant] behind their names. They also don't move around and talk in some obscure chat mode. I'm starting to think there are no such merchants that sell Zaishen keys. Oh well...

Ben-A-BoO · May 20, 2008, 09:20 AM // 09:20

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Originally Posted by Gli

I know perfectly well what I want and it's not this 'my title'. Oh, and the merchants I'm used to dealing with all have their names in green and [merchant] behind their names. They also don't move around and talk in some obscure chat mode. I'm starting to think there are no such merchants that sell Zaishen keys. Oh well...

Wrong. Just that you have to get used to blue name tags now and people that can talk, walk up to the customer (and not the other way round), say "thanks" once a trade is done or even "enjoy your day" ... horrible isn't it?
I would follow your train of thought If you could enlighten us what your sarcasm is about. Because your "I want to buy zkeys with gold" doesn't make sense. You can buy them now and that very easily even in bigger chunks.

What's your problem Sir?

BlackSephir · May 20, 2008, 09:59 AM // 09:59

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Originally Posted by Gli

I'm starting to think there are no such merchants that sell Zaishen keys. Oh well...

Right, the screenshots I posted didn't happen.
You can buy z-keys, you can buy the title. Simple as that. Only dumbasses don't get it. Oh well...

Phoenix Tears · May 20, 2008, 12:36 PM // 12:36

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Originally Posted by EinherjarMx

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/PvP_reward there's your "fow armor is for pve chars only"

Hmm, k, somethign new to me, didn't know of that yet XD But in the end its the same.. you just need to play iwth your PvP HCaracter enough PvP, until you have neough tournament tokens ect. to unlock for your pvp character the fow armor for your account.

So this links is a perfect prove thefore, that PvP characters don't need to have money and should have no concent with that they CAN make money, and that alot better and much faster, than pve characters could ever in the same amount of effort it takes.

And to balance that, the only way would be to "customize" Z-keys or make them in general not tradeable/sellable to any merchants (so 0g at npc merchs)

This way players with z-key farming pvp characters could not becoem in shorttiem through these keys uber rich, those keys would immediately stop ruinign the games economy.

And most important: keys would become that, what they should be intented to be: rewards for playing pvp and getting Balthazar Points.

Then needs only the Z-Chest a tweak, that the chest will drop different thigns in regard of, if a pve character opens it, or if a pvp character opens it and things would all be fine.

Gli · May 20, 2008, 12:50 PM // 12:50

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Originally Posted by timebandit

Wrong. Just that you have to get used to blue name tags now and people that can talk, walk up to the customer (and not the other way round), say "thanks" once a trade is done or even "enjoy your day" ... horrible isn't it?
I would follow your train of thought If you could enlighten us what your sarcasm is about. Because your "I want to buy zkeys with gold" doesn't make sense. You can buy them now and that very easily even in bigger chunks.

What's your problem Sir?

My problem is the blatant stupidity in calling the Zaishen title a PvE title just because we can buy keys from other players. It doesn't follow.

By the same measure, we could call the Wisdom title a PvP title because PvP characters could trade Zaishen keys for unidentified rares. That makes exactly the same amount of sense, which is none at all.

Tyla · May 20, 2008, 03:29 PM // 15:29

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Originally Posted by Gli

I know perfectly well what I want and it's not this 'my title'. Oh, and the merchants I'm used to dealing with all have their names in green and [merchant] behind their names. They also don't move around and talk in some obscure chat mode. I'm starting to think there are no such merchants that sell Zaishen keys. Oh well...

Cool, thanks for expanding on what you want. NPCs.

Don't PvE'ers already have access to the Zaishen Chest? Yes. I should not have to look into that for the millionth time for clueless people.

Please stop trolling.

cgruber · May 20, 2008, 03:51 PM // 15:51

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Originally Posted by Gli

My problem is the blatant stupidity in calling the Zaishen title a PvE title just because we can buy keys from other players. It doesn't follow.

By the same measure, we could call the Wisdom title a PvP title because PvP characters could trade Zaishen keys for unidentified rares. That makes exactly the same amount of sense, which is none at all.

Let's cut with the foreplay and just call it a gold buyers title.
I have almost exactly 2 million balth faction which is WAY more than quite a few people in GW and if we retrofit that with keys that would be 400 Z Keys.

400 keys * 5 pts each gives 2000 Z points which would make me a rank 4 (Ally of the Zaishen) and thats assuming I spent 100% of my balth faction on keys and not unlocking all skills and tournament tokens.

Sure theres a few people in GW that probably have 10 million+ balth faction but that only gets you to rank 7.

Revan Bastille · May 20, 2008, 09:08 PM // 21:08

So to prevent people buying another title, why not make this title based on an account's total earned Balthazar faction? You can't buy that... (unless you start buying accounts, which we all (should) know is against the EULA.)

Hmm... and after re-reading the previous post, maybe reduce the amount of faction required for ranks?